Intelligence Squared....

NPR's Intelligence Squared debate asks "Should the Government be Responsible for Universal Care?"

Midway through listening right now... gra!

One excerpt: "The government can't even count votes!"
...wtf?
You're arguing for the free market using an example of what happens when government functions are privatized. And people laugh. This does not make sense.

Also, this debate is a good illustration of a problem with the health care debate: It's pitted as Socialized vs Free Market. It's a false dichotemy that keeps any real solution from occuring. Secondly, even the one guy that mentions the money lost due to administration and insurance companies doesn't say--hey, let's get rid of the insurance companies.